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Windows 11 Explorer with tabs
PowerJack > 2022-10-28 01:19
I just saw the fix for "Windows Explorer with tabs" in the latest QAP update.
Now I was wondering how to use this new Explorer feature.
My use case would be to open Explorer with two directories in two tabs (e.g. "Downloads" plus "Target Dir") with one QAP Favorite click.
I am not sure if this is a QAP thing or an Explorer command line thing.
Has anybody managed to do this and can give some advice? -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Horst > 2022-10-28 01:21
I'm searching for the Explorer command line switches for the tab function
to use it in scripts. -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Horst > 2022-10-28 04:34
You have to define a Group in QAP and add your folder favorites in this group.
Currently I don't see any tab option under file managers for the Windows Explorer. -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2022-10-28 08:08
I did not mention in the release notes but this is only a first release supporting changing folder in the active tab. There is much more to review (and investigate) related to this major change in Windows Explorer. Do not hesitate to identify issues or ask questions here. More to come... -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
joeNOR > 2022-10-28 12:14
@Jean
If I where You I would sit still for a while before sinking time into the "tabs" in File Explorer.
It is a pile of shite, DOpus, Total Commander and some other file managers does this way better.
But, You are greased lightning, so changing the QAP code is probably a no-brainer.
-jN -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2022-11-07 16:52
As predicted by joeNOR
these changes has been done in v11.5.10 to support new tabs in Win 11:
Version: 11.5.10 (2022-11-07)
- when running on Windows 11 22H2 (build 22621.675 released October 18 or more recent) and preferred file manager is Windows Explorer:
- add in "Options, File Managers" a checkbox to open folders in a new tab of active (or last used) Windows Explorer instead of in a new Explorer window
- change method to navigate folder in the active tab using internal Windows object (change not visible to user)
In the next release, I'll adapt the "Reopen Current Folder in Dialog Box" QAP feature to support the active tab. -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Horst > 2022-11-10 04:06
Thanks Jean, works fine.
Did you find any documentation about using Explorer tabs from a command line ? -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2022-11-10 10:07
> Did you find any documentation about using Explorer tabs from a command line ?
No.
Currently, QAP sending Ctrl + T to the Explorer window to open a new tab. I dont' like this approach. I'd prefer something more "internal" (using the Explorer COM object as with command Navigate to change the folder) but I found nothing on this neither. Yet... -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2022-11-18 19:12
I did further tests with Windows 11 Explorer tabs, especially with QAP commands like "Reopen a Folder" and "Reopen Current Folder in Dialog Box" and everything works well. Let me know if you find any issues in QAP with these tabs. -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
PowerJack > 2022-11-19 02:29
I did some tests with a "Group" favorite, opening 3 folders (as Explorer tabs).
(1) Clean Desktop
With no further windows open it seems to work.
Although I had to tune the "milliseconds between favorites" in the Group options.
My feeling is that the milliseconds delay you have to enter there depends on system reaction time.
Folders from my NAS system would need a longer delay than local folders.
(2) Cluttered Desktop
With a couple of different applications in the background the "Group" favorite becomes unpredictable.
The first folder opens and then nothing happens (for a while, until I click into other windows or close Explorer).
The really nasty thing is, that QAP obviously still has two more CTRL+T bullets to fire and does this unpredictable into other windows.
So, a Windows Edge browser window in the background might be hit by the second CTRL+T bullet and all of a sudden opens my second folder (Edge also reacts to CTRL+T and can also open file system folders). -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
joeNOR > 2022-11-19 05:50
@PowerJack
Same here, although I don't use the Windows File Explorer (Directory Opus ftw) I've seen the same in other situations.
One of my laptops is an old HP running Win 11 22H2, it takes forever to start QAP after a reboot, and some of my Groups are highly unpredictable, especially when running on battery and the CPU throttles down.
My QAP menu is pretty big with a lot of favorites, shared menus, groups and submenus.
On both my main workstations it is a non-issue.
My theory is that AHK is single core and highly CPU bound. My lab machines (all are virtual machines) runs a much smaller QAP menu and on those QAP is way more predictable, and the start up is much faster.
-jN -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
joeNOR > 2022-11-19 15:39
Btw, the slow startup and "erratic" groups are much more noticeable on Windows 11 compared to Windows 10.
I don't know why, maybe it's an AHK thing? -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2022-11-20 16:22
I investigated the issue with folders groups with tabs. I was first able to reproduce the issue with MS Edge open (Ctrl+ T being sent to Edge instead of Explorer). I did one slight change in what could be the cause of "The first folder opens and then nothing happens (for a while, until I click into other windows or close Explorer)." After this change, I was not able to reproduce the "Ctrl + T sent to Edge" issue. I'll continue on this with more windows open.
About the slow startup issue on Win11, I did not notice slower start on my Win11 system. But I must say that my QAP menu is not very big on this PC and that because it not much used there is very little info to collect at QAP startup in the Windows "Recent items" folder (to populate "Recent folders", "Recent files", etc.). -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2022-11-25 14:19
After testing group of folders with Win 11 Explorer tabs, I found that inserting a longer delay (1 sec.) between the Ctrl+T and the changing the folder improves the reliability. If you want to give it a try, this can be tested in the latest beta release:
https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...p?tid=2215
I still hope a better solution using internal command (instead of sending "Ctrl+T) will eventually be found. -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
PowerJack > 2022-11-26 02:40
(2022-11-25 14:19)Jean Lalonde Wrote: After testing group of folders with Win 11 Explorer tabs, I found that inserting a longer delay (1 sec.) between the Ctrl+T and the changing the folder improves the reliability. If you want to give it a try, this can be tested in the latest beta release:
https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...p?tid=2215
I still hope a better solution using internal command (instead of sending "Ctrl+T) will eventually be found.
Thank you, Jean, for the quick reaction.
I tested the new beta against my folder group scenario (above).
It works flawless, even with remote folders at 100 ms delay.
Another small improvement might be to open the group in a separate Explorer window and not just add tabs to the latest open Explorer window.
"Replace folders in existing windows" in the group settings unfortunately kills all open Explorer windows and just keeps the group window.
I think this is not very often a desired behavior. -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2022-11-26 18:20
> I tested the new beta against my folder group scenario (above). It works flawless, even with remote folders at 100 ms delay.
Great.
> Another small improvement might be to open the group in a separate Explorer window and not just add tabs to the latest open Explorer window.
I added it to the wishlist (https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...p?tid=2217) but you can already get the desired result simply by adding Explorer.exe (no path needed) at the top of your group:
![[Image: NAEo49S.png]](https://i.imgur.com/NAEo49S.png)
Jean -
RE: Windows Explorer with tabs
PowerJack > 2022-11-27 01:47
(2022-11-26 18:20)Jean Lalonde Wrote: > I tested the new beta against my folder group scenario (above). It works flawless, even with remote folders at 100 ms delay.
Great.
> Another small improvement might be to open the group in a separate Explorer window and not just add tabs to the latest open Explorer window.
I added it to the wishlist (https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...p?tid=2217) but you can already get the desired result simply by adding Explorer.exe (no path needed) at the top of your group:
Jean
Ah, of course! Tipps and Tricks...
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Explorer tabs losing active tab focus
GAIAStevef > 2023-01-14 14:30
I seem to be having an issue with Windows 11 Explorer tabs losing "focus" when I have multiple tabs in a window and then use QAP.
It seems to be an issue that has been introduced by the recent Windows 11 KB5022303 update (Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 22H2)
My system info:
Windows 11 Pro 22H2
build 22621.1105
I have tried both the released 11.5.10, and beta 11.5.99.8 versions of QAP, and both exhibit the same behavior.
I seem to be unable to add an attachment to illustrate the problem, but in a nutshell, if I have just one tab open in a window, QAP works fine. If I have any additional tabs, QAP only acts on the first tab opened, regardless of the actual tab selected for focus. -
RE: Explorer tabs losing active tab focus
Jean Lalonde > 2023-01-14 15:22
Hi,
> I seem to be unable to add an attachment to illustrate the problem
Welcome to the QAP forum. Attaching an image to a post is a bit picky on this forum. See this post for help:
https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...hp?tid=149
Support for Win11 multi-tab Explorer in QAP is quite recent and not fully stable yet. See this thread about issues with Win11:
https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...p?tid=2191
I'll move your post to this thread and follow-up there. -
RE: Windows 11 Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2023-01-14 15:25
@GAIAStevef: After a quick test, I think I can reproduce this issue on my Win11 22H2 (22621.1105) system.
I'll check it. Thanks for reporting the issue. -
RE: Windows 11 Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2023-01-14 16:51
OK, it looks like a trivial bug in the build version number comparison. I'll fix it probably tomorrow and include it in the next beta release. -
RE: Windows 11 Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2023-01-15 12:18
This has been fixed in beta release v11.5.99.9 and will be soon released as v11.6.
https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...50#pid6050 -
RE: Windows 11 Explorer with tabs
kjl > 2023-02-03 14:01
I am running version 11.6 with Windows 11 build 22621 and the file manger options do not seem to work.
File Manager pref set to "the current Windows Explorer tab" seems to work.
File Manager pref set to "a new Windows Explorer tab" does the following.
If I am in an explorer window and use QAP, it will still open a new window.
If I use QAP outside of Explorer it will open a new window
The "Use tabs instead of opening in a new window" does not seem to do anything.
When I an in a "File Open Dialog" and use QAP, instead of changing the path in the dialog, it will open a new explorer window. -
RE: Windows 11 Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2023-02-04 10:50
Hi.
> I am running version 11.6 with Windows 11 build 22621 and the file manger options do not seem to work.
I'll review this. And make an update in the next release. Thanks for reporting it.
> When I an in a "File Open Dialog" and use QAP, instead of changing the path in the dialog, it will open a new explorer window.
Check in "Options, General" if the first check box "Dialog boxes" is enabled. -
RE: Windows 11 Explorer with tabs
Jean Lalonde > 2023-02-04 17:09
(2023-02-03 14:01)kjl Wrote: I am running version 11.6 with Windows 11 build 22621 and the file manger options do not seem to work.
These errors are caused by a version/build number comparison error in QAP since the roll-out of build 22621.1105. This roll-out started Jan 10 2023 and you were the first QAP user with the new build to notice the error. Thaks for reporting it. I'll release a fix quickly.
Jean