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"Settings" or "Customize"?
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"Settings" or "Customize"?
Jean Lalonde > 2019-08-18 17:26
I was reviewing the Microsoft Design guidelines about menus. These guidelines says "Don't use Settings as a menu label. Use Options instead." But in QAP, there also another dialog box called Options. The actual situation with "Settings" and "Options" can be confusing for new users.
Another label suggested is Customize: "To display the program options specifically related to mechanical UI configuration." I'm considering replacing the "Settings" label with "Customize" in the default QAP menu and in system menu. Of course, this would require updating the help and Knowledge Base with this new label.
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RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
CyberMCM > 2019-08-19 01:07
I never though about that but with this background information it is actually confusing if you think about it (and so has to be confusing for new users as well).
Replacing Settings with Customize seems right in my point of view... -
RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Horst > 2019-08-19 08:01
I'm not a fan of the current System menu.
I would remove all that redundant entries from the System menu
and let only Settings and Exit QAP as fixed entries.
The rest of the right click System menu should be configurable by the user. -
RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Jean Lalonde > 2019-08-21 08:32
Thanks for your input CyberMCM and Horst.
Horst: Personally, I like giving user the option to launch menu bar commands without having to open the Settings window. I would not change the System menu that way but I added your suggestion to customize the system menu to the wishlist. https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...hp?tid=207
Any other opinion about the "Customize" menu?
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RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Rennie Schmid > 2019-08-23 18:59
My vote goes to calling it Customise!
From Australia I am used to interpreting menus and different spelling. Some of the problem is trying to translate accurately between languages. Some countries/cultures seem unable to to adapt to different ways of expressing the same thing. While Australians seem able to adapt we do prefer the English/British spelling/expressions than the American variations. Personally, I can cope with difference but would prefer a world that is not mono-culturally USA.
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RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Jean Lalonde > 2019-08-26 16:31
(2019-08-19 08:01)Horst Wrote: I'm not a fan of the current System menu.
I would remove all that redundant entries from the System menu
and let only Settings and Exit QAP as fixed entries.
The rest of the right click System menu should be configurable by the user.
Instead of letting the user fully customize the System menu, it would require less effort to add this choice in "Options", section "Settings window" (to be eventually renamed):
Show menu
* in the Settings window menu bar
* in the System menu (Notification zone)
* in both locations
I'm not sure of the wording. These would be radio buttons. User would have to choose one. Default would be the 3rd. -
RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Jean Lalonde > 2019-08-26 16:41
(2019-08-23 18:59)Rennie Schmid Wrote: My vote goes to calling it Customise!
From Australia I am used to interpreting menus and different spelling. Some of the problem is trying to translate accurately between languages. Some countries/cultures seem unable to to adapt to different ways of expressing the same thing. While Australians seem able to adapt we do prefer the English/British spelling/expressions than the American variations. Personally, I can cope with difference but would prefer a world that is not mono-culturally USA.
Rennie
Hi Rennie,
I did not get your point initially. You meant "Customise" vs "Customize". I've read this about this "issue": https://grammarist.com/spelling/customise-customize/
Being from Canada, and looking at the QAP users stats below (last 30 days), I would tend to use the initial spelling "Customize".
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RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Horst > 2019-08-27 01:40
(2019-08-26 16:31)jlalonde Wrote:
(2019-08-19 08:01)Horst Wrote: I'm not a fan of the current System menu.
I would remove all that redundant entries from the System menu
and let only Settings and Exit QAP as fixed entries.
The rest of the right click System menu should be configurable by the user.
Instead of letting the user fully customize the System menu, it would require less effort to add this choice in "Options", section "Settings window" (to be eventually renamed):
Show menu
* in the Settings window menu bar
* in the System menu (Notification zone)
* in both locations
I'm not sure of the wording. These would be radio buttons. User would have to choose one. Default would be the 3rd.
Hello Jean, would this mean the same menu for left and right click of the tray icon ?
If so I don't see any benefit because I would stiil have to add more favorites in the 1st level
instaed of having some special ones in the tray icon right click. -
RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Jean Lalonde > 2019-08-27 07:20
(2019-08-27 01:40)Horst Wrote:
(2019-08-26 16:31)jlalonde Wrote:
(2019-08-19 08:01)Horst Wrote: I'm not a fan of the current System menu.
I would remove all that redundant entries from the System menu
and let only Settings and Exit QAP as fixed entries.
The rest of the right click System menu should be configurable by the user.
Instead of letting the user fully customize the System menu, it would require less effort to add this choice in "Options", section "Settings window" (to be eventually renamed):
Show menu
* in the Settings window menu bar
* in the System menu (Notification zone)
* in both locations
I'm not sure of the wording. These would be radio buttons. User would have to choose one. Default would be the 3rd.
Hello Jean, would this mean the same menu for left and right click of the tray icon ?
If so I don't see any benefit because I would stiil have to add more favorites in the 1st level
instaed of having some special ones in the tray icon right click.
No. I should have said:
Show menu bar (File, Favorite, ...)
* at top of the Settings window
* in the System menu (Notification zone)
* in both locations
Open for suggestions to make it clearer. -
RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Horst > 2019-08-27 13:48
(2019-08-27 07:20)jlalonde Wrote:
(2019-08-27 01:40)Horst Wrote:
(2019-08-26 16:31)jlalonde Wrote:
(2019-08-19 08:01)Horst Wrote: I'm not a fan of the current System menu.
I would remove all that redundant entries from the System menu
and let only Settings and Exit QAP as fixed entries.
The rest of the right click System menu should be configurable by the user.
Instead of letting the user fully customize the System menu, it would require less effort to add this choice in "Options", section "Settings window" (to be eventually renamed):
Show menu
* in the Settings window menu bar
* in the System menu (Notification zone)
* in both locations
I'm not sure of the wording. These would be radio buttons. User would have to choose one. Default would be the 3rd.
Hello Jean, would this mean the same menu for left and right click of the tray icon ?
If so I don't see any benefit because I would stiil have to add more favorites in the 1st level
instaed of having some special ones in the tray icon right click.
No. I should have said:
Show menu bar (File, Favorite, ...)
* at top of the Settings window
* in the System menu (Notification zone)
* in both locations
Open for suggestions to make it clearer.
I think this wording is better and ok, at least for me. -
RE: "Settings" or "Customize"?
Rennie Schmid > 2019-09-05 21:46
Jean Lalonde Wrote:
(2019-08-23 18:59)Rennie Schmid Wrote: My vote goes to calling it Customise!
From Australia I am used to interpreting menus and different spelling. Some of the problem is trying to translate accurately between languages. Some countries/cultures seem unable to to adapt to different ways of expressing the same thing. While Australians seem able to adapt we do prefer the English/British spelling/expressions than the American variations. Personally, I can cope with difference but would prefer a world that is not mono-culturally USA.
Rennie
Hi Rennie,
I did not get your point initially. You meant "Customise" vs "Customize". I've read this about this "issue": https://grammarist.com/spelling/customise-customize/
Being from Canada, and looking at the QAP users stats below (last 30 days), I would tend to use the initial spelling "Customize".
Hi Jean,I was only half serious!!! I really don\'t have a problem and can adapt to American! In Australia the official English is aligned to British English. We usually default to this setting when we can. The only problem is that we get British currency symbols. Microsoft has an Australian English setting that overcomes that problem. You could go the French way and not have any English words Seriously, I think it is a project going forward to allow different setting choices. Rennie