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• Need <Left click> and <Shift> + <Left click> to open QAP menu item

  untroll > 2020-08-03 12:47

  Hello Jean
  
  I added MDB files links in my QAP menu and when you double-click on a MDB file, you can hold <SHIFT> to skip the MDB autorun form. When I click on a MDB thru QAP menu, nothing happens when if I hold shift when I click on the menu item. Is it a bug? It worked before but not always and I think it's not working at all with your latest update. Could you check it out?
  
  Thank you!
  
  My QAP version is 10.5.4 (SETUP version) and I run it under Windows 10 Build 1909.

• RE: Need <Left click> and <Shift> + <Left click> to open QAP menu item

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-08-03 15:42

  Hi,
  
  QAP could not process the fact that the Shift key is pressed to achieve what you want in this particular situation.
  
  Do you know if there is a switch (command line parameter) that could be used to launch a MDB file from the command-line without the autorun? If yes, you could create an "Application" favorite (not a Document) for Access and use the "Parameters" field to add the filename and the switch. For example: /x myfile.mdb
  
  But this favorite would always skip the autorun. You would still need your first "Document" favorite to open normally.
  
  Jean

• RE: Need <Left click> and <Shift> + <Left click> to open QAP menu item

  untroll > 2020-08-04 07:53

  Hi Jean,
  
  I don't want QAP to process anything, I just want to ignore if I press <SHIFT> or not when I click on a menu item.
  
  I could use a command line parameter in my menu item but sometimes I need to press <SHIFT> to open the MDB file and other times I don't need. I want to be able to decide on the fly.
  
  I find a workaround for this bug. I had to assign the right <SHIFT> key to "Open in a new window" in the alternate menu and it seems to be working as expected.
  
  I think that to fix this issue, you should just ignore the state of the <SHIFT> key if this key is not assigned to anything in the alternate menu options.
  
  Thank you!

• RE: Need <Left click> and <Shift> + <Left click> to open QAP menu item

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-08-04 08:51

  You made me return to MS Access, not used for years. I remember that I used its first version for an exercice at university in 1992. I used it a lots after that but not in the last years. Anyway, I was still able to create an autorun macro to test this scenario :-)
  
  > I just want to ignore if I press <SHIFT> or not when I click on a menu item.
  
  Doing this would have impacts for other users using the Shift key to open the Alternative menu or trigger one of the Alternative menu shortcuts. You call it a bug but it is not. It is just that QAP is made in a way that prevents you from doing what you want. But everything works as expected.
  
  I was going to test a few things around this. But, before digging more, I found that just pressing the Shift key immediately after having selected the item in the QAP menu does just what you want. Could you try it?
  
  Jean

• RE: Need <Left click> and <Shift> + <Left click> to open QAP menu item

  untroll > 2020-08-04 09:44

  (2020-08-04 08:51)Jean Lalonde Wrote: You made me return to MS Access, not used for years. I remember that I used its first version for an exercice at university in 1992. I used it a lots after that but not in the last years. Anyway, I was still able to create an autorun macro to test this scenario :-)
  
  > I just want to ignore if I press <SHIFT> or not when I click on a menu item.
  
  Doing this would have impacts for other users using the Shift key to open the Alternative menu or trigger one of the Alternative menu shortcuts. You call it a bug but it is not. It is just that QAP is made in a way that prevents you from doing what you want. But everything works as expected.
  
  I was going to test a few things around this. But, before digging more, I found that just pressing the Shift key immediately after having selected the item in the QAP menu does just what you want. Could you try it?
  
  Jean

  
  Haha! I use Microsoft Access every day since 1999!
  
  As a programmer myself, I understand what you means by "It's not a bug". Like Microsoft says "It's by design"! haha!
  
  I know that I can press <SHIFT> just after having selected the item but it can be tricky so I will stay with my "Open in a new window" workaround. The only sad thing about this workaround is that I can only assign one <SHIFT> button to "Open in a new window" and not both.
  
  That said, I was just wondering if you have another solution for me but it's fine like that.
  
  Thank you!
  
  Sébastien

• RE: Need <Left click> and <Shift> + <Left click> to open QAP menu item

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-08-04 09:50

  > As a programmer myself, I understand what you means by "It's now a bug". Like Microsoft says "It's by design"! haha!
  
  (you certainly meant "not" a bug) Yes. I know this can be a frustrating answer from the user point of view. But, in this case, it is just the plain reality ;-)
  
  > That said, I was just wondering if you have another solution for me but it's fine like that.
  
  Unfortunately, I do not see one without risking side effects for actual use cases.
  
  Thanks for your follow-up.
  
  Jean

• RE: Need <Left click> and <Shift> + <Left click> to open QAP menu item

  untroll > 2020-08-04 09:53

  (2020-08-04 09:50)Jean Lalonde Wrote: > As a programmer myself, I understand what you means by "It's now a bug". Like Microsoft says "It's by design"! haha!
  
  (you certainly meant "not" a bug) Yes. I know this can be a frustrating answer from the user point of view. But, in this case, it is just the plain reality ;-)
  
  > That said, I was just wondering if you have another solution for me but it's fine like that.
  
  Unfortunately, I do not see one without risking side effects for actual use cases.
  
  Thanks for your follow-up.
  
  Jean

  
  No problem! Thanks for your time!
  
  By the way, I love your software and I use it since many years now!

• RE: Need <Left click> and <Shift> + <Left click> to open QAP menu item

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-08-04 10:04

  Thanks Sébastien.
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