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• Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2020-12-11 02:07

  Hi,
  
  I'm using Favorite Application to run compression and decompression (WinRAR). I have a specific syntax for compressing a file in the Advanced Settings. Everything works fine when the file or folder is in any folder but unfortunately it doesn't work when the file or folder is directly on the desktop.
  
  My configuration
  
  
  
  
  
  Is there any way around this limitation?

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-12-11 14:50

  Hi Endrju,
  
  I can reproduce this issue. Thanks for reporting this.
  
  What Windows version are you using? Getting the selected file on the Desktop uses a different technique than in Windows Explorer. I used a technique that worked in previous version of Windows but does not work now in my Windows 10. I could not tell when it stopped working. I found a new technique that does work in Win 10. I'll integrate this in the next release.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-12-11 15:10

  Endrju, is it possible that your Desktop is split on two monitors? If yes, do you see the issue on both monitors?

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2020-12-12 01:55

  Hello Jean
  
  Thanks for your reaction and researching this problem. I work on Windows 8.1 Pro and classically use only one monitor. This is not a problem that you cannot live with, but it makes it quite difficult to work with files that are currently being processed on the Desktop. The problem does not only concern this particular case, but all cases where the action is performed on the Windows desktop. I also have some other applications that I have to do on the desktop (processing music files) and unfortunately to do this I have to move them to any folder first, which unnecessarily complicates and extends the work.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-12-13 11:31

  Contrary to the result of my first tests (Friday), this command currently works on my Windows 10. The problem would be intermittent?
  
  Like I said, I have already implemented an alternative procedure. When it becomes available in the next QAP version, it will be activated if the first method does not work. We will then see if this improves the situation for you with Windows 8.1.
  
  Could other users test this command and tell us if it works with files on the desktop?

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2020-12-13 12:06

  (2020-12-13 11:31)Jean Lalonde Wrote: When it becomes available in the next QAP version...

  When can we expect the new version?

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-12-13 12:14

  A simple way to test this command is to create a batch file named "my_batch.bat" with this content:
  
  @echo off
  echo %1
  pause
  
  Then, create an Application favorite and set its location to the location of your my_batch.bat file.
  
  In the Advanced Settings, enter "{SEL_LOC}" in the Parameter zone:
  
  
  
  To use it, select a file in Windows Explorer, open the QAP menu and select the my_batch item.  The batch will be launched and will display the path of the selected file. Do the same test for a file on your Desktop. In my latest tests, this works in an Explorer window and on the Desktop.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-12-13 12:16

  (2020-12-13 12:06)Endrju Wrote:

  (2020-12-13 11:31)Jean Lalonde Wrote: When it becomes available in the next QAP version...

  When can we expect the new version?

  
  The latest version is still recent (Dec 2nd). I'm planning for beginning of January, unless a major bug is found until then.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2020-12-13 13:30

  (2020-12-13 12:14)Jean Lalonde Wrote: ........
  To use it, select a file in Windows Explorer, open the QAP menu and select the my_batch item.  The batch will be launched and will display the path of the selected file. Do the same test for a file on your Desktop. In my latest tests, this works in an Explorer window and on the Desktop.

  
  I did the test on my Win 8.1 and it looks like it works. The correct file path is indicated in the CMD popup.  

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-12-13 14:58

  (2020-12-13 13:30)Endrju Wrote: I did the test on my Win 8.1 and it looks like it works. The correct file path is indicated in the CMD popup.  

  
  It also worked for a file on your Desktop? If this worked, your initial example should work too.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2020-12-13 16:00

  I don't think we understood each other well. I did a test with your the bat file you mentioned, whether after selecting the file in Windows Explorer and running QAP, it is generating the correct path in the CMD popup. I don't know how I can use this bat file in conjunction with the path to the WinRAR in my example. This is impossible because the path to the WinRAR executable must be indicated first of all  

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-12-13 16:30

  Let me clarify. My understanding of the issue in your original post is that the "{SEL_NOEXT}" and "{SEL_NAME}" codes in your Application favorite parameters do not return the proper info about the selected file when selecting a file on your Desktop. I assume it works well when selecting a file in Windows Explorer.
  
  My test case (using the batch file and the "{SEL_LOC}" parameter) is only to check if the info about the selected file is correctly returned when selecting a file on your Desktop. Based on the positive result you reported, I deduced that the "{SEL_NOEXT}" and "{SEL_NAME}" *should* also work in your original example. If they don't we still have to investigate what's wrong or where we are not understanding each other.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2020-12-14 02:38

  Unfortunately, we don't understand each other. The problem is that when a file (in my case, e.g. test.rar) is directly on the Desktop,
  
  
  
  then the command does not work. When the same file is in any folder on the Desktop or other location (only not directly on the Desktop)
  
  
  
  then the command is carried out correctly. The commands "{SEL_NOEXT}" and "{SEL_NAME}" indicate the files correctly. Unfortunately, but when the file the command refers to is on the Desktop then nothing happens (the file decompression is not performed)
  
  It seems to me that this may be caused by incorrect operation of the {CUR_LOC} parameter when the file is on the Windows desktop
  
  
  
  When instead of this parameter {CUR_LOC} I manually enter the location C:\Users\Andrzej\Desktop
  
  
  
  then the RAR file is properly unpacked or compressed on the Windows Desktop
  
  This problem has existed in QAP for many years and it is strange that no one will notice it so far. The problem also occurs on a fresh installation of Windows 8.1
  
  
  Hope you now understand what my problem is

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Horst > 2020-12-14 03:21

  (2020-12-14 02:38)Endrju Wrote: ...
  This problem has existed in QAP for many years and it is strange that no one will notice it so far. The problem also occurs on a fresh installation of Windows 8.1

  I think the reason why no one reported this so far is simple.
  No one including myself makes such operations on the desktop.
  Even I have a large Monitor and plenty of space on the desktop I will not clutter it with files.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2020-12-14 03:39

  (2020-12-14 03:21)Horst Wrote:

  (2020-12-14 02:38)Endrju Wrote: ...
  This problem has existed in QAP for many years and it is strange that no one will notice it so far. The problem also occurs on a fresh installation of Windows 8.1

  No one including myself makes such operations on the desktop.
  Even I have a large Monitor and plenty of space on the desktop I will not clutter it with files.

  
  I am also not a fan of performing some operations on the Desktop, but unfortunately sometimes it is necessary for small files. It doesn't change the fact that it should work.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2020-12-14 10:55

  > It seems to me that this may be caused by incorrect operation of the {CUR_LOC} parameter when the file is on the Windows desktop
  
  Thanks for the clarification. I was mislead thinking that the issue was with the {SEL_...} placeholders. But you are right, the {CUR_LOC} is left empty when used on the Desktop. As mentioned, this bug was not reported before probably because such operation on the desktop is not frequent (or not essential) but you are right, it should work.
  
  It was an easy fix that that will be available in the next release.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2021-01-25 04:34

  I have installed the latest beta version (11_1_0_9_5) and the reported problem still exist with some files. I don't know what it's caused by, but it works with some files and not with others.
  
  I found one more problem with running the script on the Desktop. Running a script works anywhere except in the Windows Desktop.
  
  The script is saved in the bat file
  

  Code:

  @echo off
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Exact Audio Copy\CheckLog.exe" %1
pause

  
  
  
  
  
  Changing "{SEL_NAME}" to "{SEL_LOC}" in Advanced Settings does not help

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Horst > 2021-01-25 05:26

  The Desktop is a virtual tree combined from several real dirs.
  Try to execute the script from c:\users\yourname\desktop
  and set this as location in the QAP favorite.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2021-01-25 05:50

  (2021-01-25 05:26)Horst Wrote: Try to execute the script from c:\users\yourname\desktop

  
  As you say it works but this is the problem that I don't want to duplicate menu entries (for file on Desktop and another for other locations) 

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2021-01-25 11:05

  > Changing "{SEL_NAME}" to "{SEL_LOC}" in Advanced Settings does not help
  
  Now that the bug is fixed (using the latest beta release), what if, instead of using the combination "Start application in..." {CUR_LOC} and {SEL_NAME}, you would only use the full path in the Parameters using "{SEL_LOC}"?

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2021-01-25 11:54

  (2021-01-25 11:05)Jean Lalonde Wrote: , what if, instead of using the combination "Start application in..." {CUR_LOC} and {SEL_NAME}, you would only use the full path in the Parameters using "{SEL_LOC}"?

  
  Edit
  If you wrote about this problem, unfortunately it did not help
  

  Code:

  @echo off
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Exact Audio Copy\CheckLog.exe" %1
pause

  
  In an earlier post I meant Desktop operations are not working properly (I mean working with WinRar but not only). I don't know why but it works very selectively, some files can be compressed on the desktop and some cannot. Also, it is not possible to compress music files on the Desktop with the Flac codec (also other music codecs)
  e.g
  Application patch
  {kodeki_audio}FLAC\flac.exe
  Parameters
  "{SEL_NAME}" -5
  
  Conclusion
  Desktop operations do not work properly, they are work very selective

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Endrju > 2021-01-27 11:50

  File 09. Pytasz mnie.wav on the Desktop, error occurs when attempting to compress to RAR
  
  Parameters
  
  
  
  
  
  
  In other locations, all operations are working   The problem is only with processing the files, folders are compressed and decompressed correctly.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Horst > 2021-01-27 16:13

  (2021-01-27 11:50)Endrju Wrote: In other locations, all operations are working   The problem is only with processing the files, folders are compressed and decompressed correctly.

  
  So there is no QAP error !
  QAP has no influence of any other software running on the virtual desktop.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2021-01-27 16:43

  > Conclusion
  > Desktop operations do not work properly, they are work very selective
  
  I made additional tests and reviewed my code. About the {SEL_LOC} placeholder (and its variations), I'll have improved my code. I think we will have something reliable in the next beta release (to be released tonight or tomorrow).
  
  About the {CUR_LOC} placeholder (and its variations), QAP faces challenge. As Horst said, the Desktop folder that you see is a dynamic folder combining (at least) the content from user's Desktop (C:\Users\UserName\Desktop) and from the Common Desktop (C:\Users\Public\Desktop). QAP can detect that the current folder is the Desktop. But, as far as I know, it can't distinguish between these two dynamic sources. Until a solution is found for this (if it exists), QAP will always use the "C:\Users\UserName\Desktop" as current location since it is the most frequently used.

• RE: Problem with run fav app on Desktop

  Jean Lalonde > 2021-01-27 18:11

  See the new beta release v11.1.0.9.6
  - improve reliability when getting the location of a selected file on the Desktop dynamic folder
  
  https://forum.quickaccesspopup.com/showt...p?tid=1425
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